Blockading

[Havik]

So why did you set it so we can't blockade whilst cloaked?

[NiteHawk]

So why did you set it so we can't blockade whilst cloaked?

I felt it was a cheap tactic.

In general, why would you blockaid a planet while being cloaked? Why would the planet give up for a ship they cannot see, and cannot fire apon them during cloak? Most planets, if you orbit far enough from 'cloak sensor' range, (specially on larger planets), the planet won't fire on you, and you can cap the planet with no effort at all due to cloaking and orbiting. I don't think in general a planet would surrender while being cloaked in general.

[Blackdog]

Lol, the problem was not really the planet.  Its all the AI the swarm you while you orbit if not cloaked.

Seems like bombing the planet has become the necessity in order to take it without all the bs.

Btw, I disagree with the idea that a planet would not surrender to a cloaked ship.  The whole idea to blockading a planet is it cut off the colonies resources needed in order to survive.  Being cloaked would still accomplish that goal.  Any cargo ship would simply be blasted out of the stars by a blockading ship and then re-cloak to continue starving the people of the planet.

[NiteHawk]

Lol, the problem was not really the planet.  Its all the AI the swarm you while you orbit if not cloaked.

Seems like bombing the planet has become the necessity in order to take it without all the bs.

Btw, I disagree with the idea that a planet would not surrender to a cloaked ship.  The whole idea to blockading a planet is it cut off the colonies resources needed in order to survive.  Being cloaked would still accomplish that goal.  Any cargo ship would simply be blasted out of the stars by a blockading ship and then re-cloak to continue starving the people of the planet.

Why should you be able to take a planet with such ease though? If your blockading a planet, then everyone SHOULD see you. No ones going to just bend over and surrender to a ship thats cloaked doing nothing at all.

Even if you do take your scenario, its so you can hide from AI, but in general, they (AI SHIPS) shouldn't just ignore you, your blockaiding the planet. Instead even still, they would rush you at the planet, because well, your blockaiding the planet. If your blockaiding, then they know you are there. But taking your example, You are more uncloaking to actually blockade, because in cloaked mode, you can't do squat. If you sat and didnt uncloak, how would that be blockading? You are more waiting to 'blockade' rather then actually blockading.

It just seems to me its a cheap way of avoiding AI or death in your statement either or. It's not ment to be easy to blockading, thats whats using colonies is for. Blockading is ment to be tough. And even still, staying cloaked to avoid AI enemy fire would be a 'bug' in my eye because in a sense, no one would just sit and let there planet get capped like it was nothing.

Plus I really don't consider this 'blockading' in a sense, its more like influence, because your not actually 'killing' supplies that go to the planet/etc, your just simply orbiting the planet.

[Blackdog]

I don't think you fully understand my point.  I'll make an example of what I am talking about, although it wont be a direct comparison.  Throughout history, armies have enclosed walled villages and fortifications.  What this did was essentially block off all communication and supplies for those stuck inside.  Now obviously these forces were not able to "cloak" however the very blockade prevented them from sending for help.  The people inside simply starved as they consumed their goods down to nothing. So with that in mind, you asked if I thought a planet should just bend over and surrender by you just sitting around it and waiting?  Yes, I absolutely do believe people would do that.  

Why you think this is cheap is beyond me.  No one has ever complained about it.  You are by no means safe from getting creamed.  Especially with the delay you decided to have in decloaking.  The planet still calls for help, when I see that broadcast, I think "easy kill"  and simply rake the perimeter with shots sometimes killing the opponent.  Yes, the AI will rush to the planet to help defend it, that does not mean you should not cloak while in orbit of it.  That's just retarded.  Its all part of the sit and wait while you drain down the supply that they CONSUME when they can not receive more.  Sitting in cloak or not, you are still preventing the colonists from resupplying.  Why would it make any difference what so ever?  "Waiting to blockade", that is ridiculous.  The fact you even consider it a bug annoys me to no end.  Whether in real life or in game, it has always been a useful tactic to take control over a certain area.  There are true bugs in this game that needs to be addressed, don't focus on something that most did not even consider or care about.  

[NiteHawk]

I didn't focus on this at all, actually. And there was a few people who did complain. I don't address things unless it's spoken of here or in game.

AI will not attack you if your cloaked and they can't see you. Specially if you sit far enough from the planet. AI ships don't fire on you.
For example, I grab a patrol cloak, just before getting to the planet (Tritron or whatever), I cloak, which in turn prevents getting fired on at all. I make sure I'm at the farthest I can be while still blockading/etc. Then I orbit. AI ships do come to the planet, but again, they don't fire on cloaked ships because they simply cannot tell where they are. Supply points drop down, planet capped, and I was cloaked through it all. I didn't have to lift a finger, and the planet didn't fire on me because I was far enough from his cloak detect range. I was completely safe.  I mean. Why would the planet just surrender? There were 4 ships around the planet looking for me, but again, I was cloaked.

I consider it more of an annoyance at that. I will work on what I very well want to work on too. And I'm aware of the remaining bigger bugs that are around but smaller things need to be done too but it's also a nice break from working on the bigger things. In the future I'll make it a variable so you can toggle then cloak or not with orbiting, but for default, its going to be disabled.

[NiteHawk]

I've polled it anyways http://stellarfrontier.ss-network.net/index.php?topic=774.0